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Old 04-17-2007, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The new Halo 2 maps should be available by the time you read this. Both are remakes of Halo classics, Hang ‘Em High and Derelict, now renamed Tombstone and Desolation, respectively. The new maps are only available via Xbox Live, and specifically, through the Halo 2 interface (from the Downloads item on the main menu), which while a blessing for original Xbox owners, presents a couple of minor challenges for 360 users. But nothing too scary.



n the US, the maps are priced at $4 for both (this price will vary by international region) – but on 360, they can’t be purchased using Xbox Live Marketplace “points.” Some form of credit card payment is required. On Xbox, that’s not a problem, since a credit card is associated with the account – and that’s the card that the $4 charge will be applied to. The card must of course be valid.

Xbox 360 made it possible to buy a Live Account and Marketplace points without a credit card – so we apologize for the following inconvenience if you’re a 360 owner with no credit card attached to your Live account, but thanks to Halo 2’s olde school tech, this is the simplest way to do it:

Account Management

1. In the Xbox Dashboard, select the profile that you want to modify, and then select Account Management.
2. Select Memberships.
3. Select the membership that you want to update.
4. Select Change Payment Options.
5. Select Add Credit Card.
6. Enter the credit card information for the card that you want to add. This can also be a debit or Visa (or similar) gift card, however, some restrictions may apply.


Now that’s the hard stuff out of the way, there are a couple of other things to note about the maps. For the first week or so, they will only be available in Custom Games, giving players the chance to download them before rolling them into Matchmaking. That should happen in about a week, barring any unforeseen circumstances.

There are a couple of bugs to look out for, and this one might cause some issues – especially on Euro 360s – but again, it’s an easy workaround:

The Xbox downloader and update programs needed to get AutoUpdate 5 and the new maps have an odd issue with support of the PAL-60 TV standard on the Xbox 360. This is simply because the backward compatible part of the dashboard was never updated for that resolution and it means you can’t use VGA to run these programs. However, fear not - to work around this, switch over to the composite (yellow) cable that shipped with your Xbox 360, get the update and the maps, and then you can switch back to VGA and play happily like nothing ever happened. Of course, if you’re using a VGA monitor, it does mean you’ll have to connect to a regular TV to complete that process.

We’ve had some mixed reports about availability worldwide, and yes, the maps may roll out more slowly in your region – simply try again later in the day. If you find that you can’t use your account to download the maps, check your settings, and check with a parent to make sure your 360 isn’t set with a protected “Child Account.” Other error messages may appear if a credit card is expired. Again, for 99% of folks, this shouldn’t be a problem, but the very nature of making it available for two totally different consoles makes this content a challenge we worked hard to overcome.

Remember also that these downloads are tied to the Box, not the Gamertag, which means you should think carefully about which box you’re downloading to if you have a 360 and an old school Xbox. Again, we understand that’s going to be a pain for some tournament and LAN players, but we’re stuck with bridging the divide between olde Xbox Live and the new. This was as simple as we could make it while still making it available to original Xbox users.

Now, the Matchmaking Playlist update will cause the same kind of growing pains as last time we updated the map selection – with some playlists unavailable to folks who don’t have the new maps (the reasons why are pretty self-evident) but here’s how the new Matchmaking playlists will break down when they go live next week:


· Rumble Pit – Unranked – FFA – New Maps Required!
· Double Team – Ranked – 2v2 Teams
· Team Slayer – Ranked – 3 / 4 vs. 3 /4 - New Maps Required!
· Team Skirmish – Ranked – 3 /4 vs. 3 /4 – New Maps Required!
· Team Training – Unranked – 3 /4 vs. 3 /4
· Team Snipers – Ranked – 3 / 4 vs. 3 / 4 – New Maps Required!
· Team Hardcore – Ranked – 3 /4 vs. 3 /4
· Team SWAT – Unranked – 3 /4 vs. 3 /4 – New Maps Required!
· Big Team Battle – Unranked – 5 / 6 vs. 5 /6



So has anyone dl them yet?
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not yet. I woulda had it start before I left for work had I remembered. I did play some H2 last night though. It was fun... haven't really played that game much over the last year.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I doubt I'll be DLing these. You need a credit card which I don't have tied to my account and I don't play Halo that much so probably not.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So..these are different from the 3 packs containing 9 maps in total that you can dl free off the xbox live menu ?
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Its the pack that costs 4 bucks right now.
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I downloaded them yesterday and played them a few times over the night. Played with MC101 who asked how everybody/the forum was doing. My take on the new maps is:
Desolation: sucks. I really don't like it. I think they ruined Derelict with the changes they made. Part of the fun of the original for me was that there were only a few ways up to the top... now theres a ton of them. Also they removed the feeling of "where are they" and the ability to swoop down on your foes from above. You can still pull a Batman and attack from up high but it's a lot more obvious where you're going to do this from. The most fun I had on this level was playing swords, rockets or grenade tag. Zombies was pretty fun too but I never enjoyed playing with actual Slayer settings.
Tombstone: Was pretty fun. Is it as fun as the original? No. There's no invisibility orb by the ramps any more which was always a point of interest for my friends and I. The tight corridors under the main building are not so tight. I do like the drop-in they added to get into the tight corridors but I feel that it eliminated some of the "cat and mouse" that always made that section of the map so fun. I still feel like this will be a good map and people will enjoy it.
Bottom line: these maps are far short of their originals and this is especially noticeable with Desolation. I would almost recommend waiting for this to be free but Bungie said there are no plans to release them as free and they will be put into matchmaking shortly so you'd not be able to play most of the playlists if you hold out. :hmm:
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There is plans to release them for free, I herd on AOTS. Also they sound interesting to play.

Also I get my 360 hopefully back on Friday.
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I bought them, played it a few times but thats it for me. They are alright, but I dont care to much for the game so whatever. Plus, the rainbow six maps came out afterwards and that game is much better.
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it won't let me download them :S
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R6 is pretty cool, halo 2 is just old now lol.
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