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Old 10-04-2008, 12:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I can agree with some of them. While PSN is nice I think it still cant compete with XBL. PSN is trying to copy everything XBL had before and Home is probably their most original thing. My cousin owns a PS3 and I've played it atleast 200 times this past year( cause Im constantly at his dorm room). and I can see why you would get a PS3. I like PS3 also but I wont buy one until Tekken 6.
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An argument to switch over to the PS3 because of Microsoft charging people for things is very stupid IMO. You don't need to pay anything besides XBL which is very cheap. Like Gravity just said 50 bucks for a year isn't bad at all, and i think it's a hell of a lot better then the PS3. I played the PS3 once online and i really don't think it compares to how easy and everything is on the 360. The price monthly for XBL is very reasonable seeing the things you get, (I.E. this upcoming dashboard update which looks great) and how accessible and easy everything is, even when your in a game. Complaining about prices isn't a valid argument, you're not forced to buy any of it.

I do respect your opinion Steveo and your reasoning is good, excluding the fact of money.
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An argument to switch over to the PS3 because of Microsoft charging people for things is very stupid IMO. You don't need to pay anything besides XBL which is very cheap. Like Gravity just said 50 bucks for a year isn't bad at all, and i think it's a hell of a lot better then the PS3. I played the PS3 once online and i really don't think it compares to how easy and everything is on the 360. The price monthly for XBL is very reasonable seeing the things you get, (I.E. this upcoming dashboard update which looks great) and how accessible and easy everything is, even when your in a game. Complaining about prices isn't a valid argument, you're not forced to buy any of it.

I do respect your opinion Steveo and your reasoning is good, excluding the fact of money.
i think free online is better. alot of people say "50 dollars a year isnt that much". well ive been a subscriber to xbox live for about 2 years and come march I MIGHT resubscribe, depending on what games come out for the xbox. 50+50 is 100. and if i resubscribe i will have payed 150 dollars. some who have had xbox live since the xbox 360's release and by the release of the xbox 3 you will have paid 300 dollars (or close to that amount) thats enough money to buy 5 or 4 games, or get completely different console.

im just saying that it all adds up. and thats just services. if the position of your xbox and tv and router are inconvienient then you would probably end up buying wireless adapter which costs 100 dollars. and those who break headsets (like me) pay 20 bucks for each headset. so i ended up getting a wireless headset for about 60 dollars (which shouldnt be as hard to break). ive spent about 120 dollars on headsets (3 broke 1 wireless bought), 100 dollars for connectivity, and 100 dollars for live so far. thats 320 dollars

of course those are just luxury items that arent needed, but it is very useful to have such items.

for the playstation all ive had to buy so far is a bluetooth headset from plantronics which costed about 30 bucks. so ive only spent 30 dollars for accessories, headsets, and playstation network. thats a fair deal to me.
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Well Steveo you have joined the dark side.

And I prayed for your father for over a month. I know after he left the material world, i still prayed.
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Potential yes, but knowing Sony from the past they never know what they have in front of their faces. Also good luck with your free online, you will come to know it is ****y having no one looking over it. You will have more down time then us, more lag then us, no one has mics, not that much of a community to play with I think live has like what 3 Million? How much does PSN have? You'll come back, you will.
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Potential yes, but knowing Sony from the past they never know what they have in front of their faces. Also good luck with your free online, you will come to know it is ****y having no one looking over it. You will have more down time then us, more lag then us, no one has mics, not that much of a community to play with I think live has like what 3 Million? How much does PSN have? You'll come back, you will.
from the time ive had a ps3 its actually been faster, and hasnt gone down once. the xbox on the other hand which i pay for has been as fast as psn and been down more.

i also have some software issues with the xbox that still need to be fixed. maybe with the nxe.

and if my judgement is wrong, which i have a strong feeling that its not, then after i sell my xbox 360 i wont get another one ill probably just wait untill the xbox 3 releases.
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i think free online is better. alot of people say "50 dollars a year isnt that much". well ive been a subscriber to xbox live for about 2 years and come march I MIGHT resubscribe, depending on what games come out for the xbox. 50+50 is 100. and if i resubscribe i will have payed 150 dollars. some who have had xbox live since the xbox 360's release and by the release of the xbox 3 you will have paid 300 dollars (or close to that amount) thats enough money to buy 5 or 4 games, or get completely different console.

im just saying that it all adds up. and thats just services. if the position of your xbox and tv and router are inconvienient then you would probably end up buying wireless adapter which costs 100 dollars. and those who break headsets (like me) pay 20 bucks for each headset. so i ended up getting a wireless headset for about 60 dollars (which shouldnt be as hard to break). ive spent about 120 dollars on headsets (3 broke 1 wireless bought), 100 dollars for connectivity, and 100 dollars for live so far. thats 320 dollars

of course those are just luxury items that arent needed, but it is very useful to have such items.

for the playstation all ive had to buy so far is a bluetooth headset from plantronics which costed about 30 bucks. so ive only spent 30 dollars for accessories, headsets, and playstation network. thats a fair deal to me.
I understand what you're saying on it all adds up but then you need to think of how long you have had XBL for. 3 years for a $150 isn't really that bad. And i also don't know how you break so many microphones excluding the wireless one (mine randomly broke, no idea what happened, those are just garbage) but my wired one has been working for at least a year now.

And just a question, do you really think PSN is better than XBL?
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You're going to be miss out on some awesome games if you do this

Gears 2, Fable 2, and Halo Wars for instance
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An argument to switch over to the PS3 because of Microsoft charging people for things is very stupid IMO. You don't need to pay anything besides XBL which is very cheap. Like Gravity just said 50 bucks for a year isn't bad at all, and i think it's a hell of a lot better then the PS3. I played the PS3 once online and i really don't think it compares to how easy and everything is on the 360. The price monthly for XBL is very reasonable seeing the things you get, (I.E. this upcoming dashboard update which looks great) and how accessible and easy everything is, even when your in a game. Complaining about prices isn't a valid argument, you're not forced to buy any of it.

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The thing that really tempts me is the free marketplace.
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well that's my point. It tempts a lot of people who can't buy Microsoft Points but no one is forcing you to buy them.
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I understand what you're saying on it all adds up but then you need to think of how long you have had XBL for. 3 years for a $150 isn't really that bad. And i also don't know how you break so many microphones excluding the wireless one (mine randomly broke, no idea what happened, those are just garbage) but my wired one has been working for at least a year now.

And just a question, do you really think PSN is better than XBL?
150 for 3 years is bad to me when wii's online service is free, and playstation network is free. if all of them costed 150 then it would be more reasonable. especially if your not rich. income here is lower than ever since my dads passing.

the mics breaking so many times is just out of luck. 2 of my wired mics my cat chewed up, and 1 of them i accidentally stepped on, and broke the little connector.

psn and xbox live are about the same. but seriously when you think about it in a logical sort of way your paying 50 dollars a year for xbox live for 1 or 2 features that playstation network does not have.

im sure if microsoft hadnt patented everything they made on the xbox, playstation network would be equal or better, free of charge.

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Gears 2, Fable 2, and Halo Wars for instance
well im going to keep my xbox for at least 6 months untill i get bored of gears of war 2, or that new halo 4 thing or halo 3 thing. halo wars, and fable 2 dont look interesting to me at all.

and like i said before alot of the great games are on both xbox and ps3 now. and the playstation 3 exclusives look way more interesting to me.
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Yeah, I never thought about your dad's passing factoring into how you account for paying for everything. But I would say you should definitely go with the PS3 then. It's free, and you do not need to worry about paying for anything other than the games you want to play.
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Comparing PSN and XBL is one thing... comparing Wii's on-line to XBL is just ridiculous. That's like comparing Disney World to your local street fair... not even in the same class.
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from the time ive had a ps3 its actually been faster, and hasnt gone down once. the xbox on the other hand which i pay for has been as fast as psn and been down more.

i also have some software issues with the xbox that still need to be fixed. maybe with the nxe.

and if my judgement is wrong, which i have a strong feeling that its not, then after i sell my xbox 360 i wont get another one ill probably just wait untill the xbox 3 releases.
Sure, sure it is. There is a reason why Xbox has us play 50 bucks "a year" its a inexpensive way to make little money while they continue to bring ups top of the line community online play. Our 50 a month will come all in to play once the new dashboard hits us this November. Then you will come back, or wish you never had sold your 360. IMO this will be your worst mistake in gaming you will ever encounter. Happy trials to a ****y Sony community, with no games I might add.
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Sure, sure it is. There is a reason why Xbox has us play 50 bucks "a year" its a inexpensive way to make little money while they continue to bring ups top of the line community online play. Our 50 a year will come all in to play once the new dashboard hits us this November. Then you will come back, or wish you never had sold your 360. IMO this will be your worst mistake in gaming you will ever encounter. Happy trials to a ****y Sony community, with no games I might add.
honestly, I have to agree with Maurader 98%.

I have my own account on PSN for almost 2 years and I've only made 10 FRIENDS. I repeat, 10 FRIENDS!

The community is crap to be honest. the 10 people I know are either people from my cousins dorm or people I'm friends with in RL or relatives. A

And if you want to talk about game fads PSN is worse than XBL. There is truly only 3 games that I can rely on to have a nice amount of people. CoD4, Warhawk, and MGS4. Every other game is almost empty all the time.

Also like mentioned. You may pay 30 bucks for a bluetooth but only 30-40% of the community uses them. I go into so many matches where it's dead silent then on XBL in a Halo or Gears match. It almost took them 2 years to get any decent XMB and game intergaration.

I guess that best way to put it is: on XBL you truly feel like a community (like X3E), but on PSN you feel more anti-social due to the lack ingration of game and XMB, and less mic use.
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